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I wonder if there were any Chinese diplomats visiting northern England in the 1800s, and reporting back to the emperor on the conditions they found. If there were, it might have been a reason for the Chinese to sit back on industrial development for a couple of centuries, to see how the experiment panned out. A bit like Zhou Enlai being asked in the 1970s whether the French revolution was a good thing. "Too early ro say".

So much for ideology, but material conditions weren't so great for those people forced off the land into factories by the enclosure acts, and didn't improve much until universal suffrage was pushed through and the worker's Labour party started making political inroads in the early C20th. That century's progress in mechanisation, medecine and life expectancy finally convinced Zhou Enlai's generation that China needed to embrace development and modernisation.

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